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		<title>By: Lombardi Development Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Performance of modern JavaScript engines</title>
		<link>http://development.lombardi.com/?p=166&#038;cpage=1#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Lombardi Development Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Performance of modern JavaScript engines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a follow up to my post about GWT performance with the latest JavaScript engines. In the two months since that I wrote that there have been new releases of many of the browsers I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Piotr</title>
		<link>http://development.lombardi.com/?p=166&#038;cpage=1#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Piotr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting research.
I just wonder what about Opera? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting research.<br />
I just wonder what about Opera? <img src='http://development.lombardi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Des fraises au printemps &#187; Comparer les performances des moteur JavaScript</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des fraises au printemps &#187; Comparer les performances des moteur JavaScript</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GWT performance with the latest JavaScript engines [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Moffat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Moffat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Samuel I actually did have jit enabled for the FF3.1 tests. The first set of tests I ran I had jit.content only on, I then did another set with jit.content and jit.chrome, which turned out to be slower. Perhaps there is something else I&#039;m doing wrong but I did set the config options correctly.

@Thomas Broyer I agree about the js engine not being the only thing to consider. For the particular operations I&#039;m measuring pretty much the only DOM operation is a single insert of a massive block of html so I think I&#039;m mostly measuring js performance here. Damon talks about this in &lt;a href=&quot;http://sites.google.com/site/io/using-gwt-to-build-a-high-performance-collaborative-diagramming-tool&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;our google i/o presentation&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;d love faster DOM and CSS support.

@Tanguy Bayard IE8 numbers would be interesting. I didn&#039;t have IE8 installed when I did the measurements though and my main focus was on how the new engines performed. I&#039;ll probably rerun these tests with the next release of our software and I&#039;ll try and include IE8 in the mix then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Samuel I actually did have jit enabled for the FF3.1 tests. The first set of tests I ran I had jit.content only on, I then did another set with jit.content and jit.chrome, which turned out to be slower. Perhaps there is something else I&#8217;m doing wrong but I did set the config options correctly.</p>
<p>@Thomas Broyer I agree about the js engine not being the only thing to consider. For the particular operations I&#8217;m measuring pretty much the only DOM operation is a single insert of a massive block of html so I think I&#8217;m mostly measuring js performance here. Damon talks about this in <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/io/using-gwt-to-build-a-high-performance-collaborative-diagramming-tool" rel="nofollow">our google i/o presentation</a>. I&#8217;d love faster DOM and CSS support.</p>
<p>@Tanguy Bayard IE8 numbers would be interesting. I didn&#8217;t have IE8 installed when I did the measurements though and my main focus was on how the new engines performed. I&#8217;ll probably rerun these tests with the next release of our software and I&#8217;ll try and include IE8 in the mix then.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanguy Bayard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanguy Bayard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I am surprised that you did not try the benchmark with IE8. I do not know if IE8 contains js improvements, did it ? How much ?
IE7 is a 2 years old browser. JIT JavaScript compilation was not on the agenda at this time. Others browsers of this benchmark are no more than 1 year old, it sounds pretty normal to me that they beat IE7.

I hope that each browser will be 5 or 10 times faster than its own 2-years-ago version. It sounds very good for GWT and others js-based applications !

Concerning IE6 and IE7 support : I agree, you cannot do as good with IE6 &amp; IE7 because it was not built for.

I would be also interested by having those results on other OS. May it be different ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am surprised that you did not try the benchmark with IE8. I do not know if IE8 contains js improvements, did it ? How much ?<br />
IE7 is a 2 years old browser. JIT JavaScript compilation was not on the agenda at this time. Others browsers of this benchmark are no more than 1 year old, it sounds pretty normal to me that they beat IE7.</p>
<p>I hope that each browser will be 5 or 10 times faster than its own 2-years-ago version. It sounds very good for GWT and others js-based applications !</p>
<p>Concerning IE6 and IE7 support : I agree, you cannot do as good with IE6 &amp; IE7 because it was not built for.</p>
<p>I would be also interested by having those results on other OS. May it be different ?</p>
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		<title>By: Vik</title>
		<link>http://development.lombardi.com/?p=166&#038;cpage=1#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Vik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job! Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas Broyer</title>
		<link>http://development.lombardi.com/?p=166&#038;cpage=1#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Broyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing to note: JavaScript engine != rendering engine. As soon as you deal with the DOM, the JavaScript engine isn&#039;t anymore the only thing entering into play.
IE is known to have both a poor js engine and rendering engine; hopefully things will be better with IE8 (though I doubt it will enable it to compete with the others)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to note: JavaScript engine != rendering engine. As soon as you deal with the DOM, the JavaScript engine isn&#8217;t anymore the only thing entering into play.<br />
IE is known to have both a poor js engine and rendering engine; hopefully things will be better with IE8 (though I doubt it will enable it to compete with the others)</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I think TraceMonkey wasn&#039;t enabled during your tests
In the beta version of FF3.1, it is disabled.

Here is how to set it up :
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/3381/firefox-31-how-to-enable-the-tracemonkey-javascript-engine/

Regards,
Samuel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I think TraceMonkey wasn&#8217;t enabled during your tests<br />
In the beta version of FF3.1, it is disabled.</p>
<p>Here is how to set it up :<br />
<a href="http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/3381/firefox-31-how-to-enable-the-tracemonkey-javascript-engine/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/3381/firefox-31-how-to-enable-the-tracemonkey-javascript-engine/</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Samuel</p>
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